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 Jan 19 2007, 07:50
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QUOTE(bennish @ Jan 16 2007, 06:05)  Apart from zooming photos, how is the touch screen in ANY way different or superior to windows ones? i can scroll through a list of my contacts just like steve did. To be fair the iPhone screen is clearly much better than the standard screens on most PocketPC devices. It's a matter of degree though. QUOTE(bennish @ Jan 16 2007, 06:05) It's freaky how hyper people get about this... does that guy use drugs on his audience? http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif 
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Jan 19 2007, 22:36
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 SpinDoctorBlow  Group: Posters Posts: 2,765 Joined: 25th February 2003 From: Edinburgh, UK Member No.: 3,060 |
 I am finding this almost too funny!!I really don't understand why everybody is getting so worked up? That's just playing into Apples big fat corporate hands! I think it's funny that some years ago Apple was seen as this almost whiter than white company, that was small & dedicated to good service & build quality. I work as a musician, and studio standard equipment is mac, primarily because they are more reliable than PC's - although that statement is true in some ways it does need to be qualified in my view by saying that the mac hardware usually lasts longer than average PC parts, but PC parts are easily & inexpensively replaced, whereas macs aren't. It's also fair to say that in software terms, macs crash as often if not more often than PC's do - using large audio files is demanding on any system. Everybody used to slag off MS & Gates for being greedy, backstabbing sons of guns, and then carry on as if Macintosh was a charity organisation donating excellent computers to anyone who needed one! Now people are saying exactly the same stuff about this Steve Jobs (is that really his name!!??) as they were about Gates 5 years ago, Apple are corporate as hell & everybodys slagging them off. Its hilarious. They are all evil corporate scum & the world is truly screwed until we eliminate each & every last one of them ... but until then we just have to buy their products! Now of course, any publicity about the iPhone instantly results in a barrage of comments like "will it kill off smartphones?"  I mean, come on ... Apple can't pay for that kind of advertising. They'll save a fortune by just releasing snippets of info & then letting web forums, chatrooms, & idle gossip spread the word for them!! It's exactly the same as with iPods. If you ask me its an awfully expensive personal stereo!I like the look of this iPhone thing. The screen looks pretty wow, and all that touch screen stuff looks pretty nice. As for killing off smartphones, I would doubt it. One of the biggest issues for me would be 3rd party software. I depend on it on my smartphone & PPC - & dont give me that "thats coz MS didn't put good enough stuff on there". Does it not occur to anybody else that is half the reason why there are such excellent 3rd party apps available? I am aware of several 3rd party software companies that provide apps that are immeasuarbly better than the default, sure they have to pay MS a whack but at least they can make a living & sell their products. I can't believe Apple would do that, well no I CAN believe it, evil corporate whores. At least MS allow some people to share the money! And can you imagine having a "smartphone" with no web community inventing great wee hacks & apps & tricks & tweaks??? As with everything Apple This phone will look amazing. I bet the screen has lovely animations & stuff, great looking icons & that. But I bet it'll suck in comparison to what you can do with a smartphone! I mean, I've always though of smartphones as being a niche kind of market anyway - I don't see many folks using them, in fact I dont see any! Most people dont want to be bothered with all the extras you get on a smartphone, they want to phone, text & take piccys, maybe email, that's it. They may be attracted to the iPhone purely on the basis that it could replace their iPod and they only have one device to carry. That's always been my reasoning for not getting an iPod, coz I have enough to carry anyway, & my 2GB card does nicely for about loads of albums. My iPod wealding mates all go "but I can have 8GB, or 20GB" or whatever, but I'm sorry, if you're one of those people who thinks its more convenient to carry 2 devices with you all the time (iPod & phone) than to change the music on your sd card once in a while, then you're screwed & you have my sympathy!  Oh, and I can't believe how easily everybody is swayed by the way it looks!?! I mean, if you people are worried about how your mobile phone looks then a) you're screwed because you are clearly shallow, materialistic and obviously very insecure, and  what are you doing with a big chunky smartphone then?Am I ranting again? This post has been edited by drblow: Jan 19 2007, 22:41 -------------------- "... time is an illusion ... lunchtime doubly so ..."
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Jan 20 2007, 01:46
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QUOTE(drblow @ Jan 19 2007, 14:36) And can you imagine having a "smartphone" with no web community inventing great wee hacks & apps & tricks & tweaks??? lol, actually it cant be imagined cuz it was like when we had out old motorola phones and there was no modaco. we would look forward to the newest java game lol. no one ever thought of having a phone with all this neat stuff that we have no before then, it would just be upgrading to a better phone with new apps and games. -------------------- try my wmp skins for smartphone! | and my newest Pocket PC compatible skin!
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Jan 21 2007, 00:29
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QUOTE(Webreaper @ Jan 19 2007, 17:50) oh that's a keeper  lmao
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Jan 21 2007, 07:21
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,012 Joined: 10th July 2006 From: US, Washington, Everett Member No.: 197,656 Device(s): AT&T Tilt (Kaiser)!!! |
QUOTE(Webreaper @ Jan 18 2007, 23:50) LOL this is 100% true. sounds like anyone I know that likes apple. theyl compare it to things and not even know the features. the top 5 things ive heard from people is: 1. "it looks cool!" 2. "it has a touch screen!" 3. "it has Mac on it!" 4. "its the first computer-like phone" (this one makes me really mad) 5. "it can play music/video!" (this one makes me even more mad) my responses: 1. "So did the razr but it turned out crappy like the standard every day phone" or "theres windows phones that look cool. u just want a phone that looks cool but crappy features?" 2. "every pocket pc has a touchscreen! there's been windows pocket pc's with touchscreens for a long time now!" 3. "and windows pocket pc's and smartphones have windows on it..." and then their clueless that there was windows smartphones and pocket pcs wich make me mad. 4. "windows has been making "computer-like" phones for a while now. and in some countries there is literally portable computer phones the size of the iphone. the iphone isnt the first phone like this. 5. "are u f**cking serious? just about every phone u can buy now a days has some way of playing music and video and has a memory card slot!" and of corse these people have the old motorola phones from 2002-2004 that dont have music support or memory cards. it wouldnt be so bad if people didnt get so excited over this. its like here on modaco when we see a new pocket pc in the modaco news section; we look at it, decide we dont like it, and move onto the next phone. the iphone is a phone thats always gonna be talked about and advertized. why cant it just move on like every other phone? |
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May 27 2007, 23:27
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 Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,530 Joined: 27th February 2006 From: Milton Keynes UK Member No.: 174,863 Device(s): Kaiser, Touch, WM6 G4 Wizard |
OK so the hype has died down and June is almost here, what's happening with this?
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Jun 11 2007, 19:39
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 38 Joined: 26th March 2006 Member No.: 179,428 Device(s): SPV C600 |
It'll be out by the end of the month and ... it definitelly aint a smart phone:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/apple-a...ils-for-iphone/ So, there goes the last glimpse of interest I had in that product. 3rd party "applications" aren't gonna be anything but web and browser based java, maybe flash apps. Which need a server to run on. And that without 3G. Awwwwwsome. <_< |
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Jun 11 2007, 20:20
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 Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 220 Joined: 3rd January 2005 From: Cambridge, UK Member No.: 104,315 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.s...1S-43DpTcs8odgQ
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Jun 12 2007, 07:18
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,530 Joined: 27th February 2006 From: Milton Keynes UK Member No.: 174,863 Device(s): Kaiser, Touch, WM6 G4 Wizard |
Yeah the confirmed release date was announced the day after I posted
Wasn't the price always quoted at around 500 dollars, that makes 260 pounds about right |
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Jun 12 2007, 09:16
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 220 Joined: 3rd January 2005 From: Cambridge, UK Member No.: 104,315 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
I read it would be just under £600 in the UK, also that's not even on contract it's unconnected I believe..
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Jun 13 2007, 06:17
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,530 Joined: 27th February 2006 From: Milton Keynes UK Member No.: 174,863 Device(s): Kaiser, Touch, WM6 G4 Wizard |
Yeah you're right there, 260 quid does seem far too cheap without a contract
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Jun 15 2007, 11:59
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 No.1 the larch Group: Posters Posts: 971 Joined: 26th November 2002 From: Hampshire, UK Member No.: 103 Device(s): Touch Dual |
I think Apple had great intentions but have screwed up a lot of things and set their expectations too high, the phone market is nasty and can destroy a company even before they have released a product/service. I can't see how Jobs is going to hit his market expectations, granted a large chunk of sales are guarnteed to Apple sheeple consumers but after you have saturated that market you can't survive on that income alone.
Too little too late I think. Safari Beta has only just been released so how is that going to help the developers make "apps" for this device in time for release, especially when the safari beta should really be called an Alpha. I can't see the reasons for not letting native apps be developed, other mobiles manufacturers seem to have pleased the networks enough that they will allow 3rd party native apps to be developed without any threat to the network operator, which is Jobs' main reason for the lock down of the OS. This just smells all a bit funny, I get the distinct impression that this part of the development was all a bit rushed or not understood well enough by the bods at Apple. Not too keen on the fact that it's solely touchscreen, I'm happy with WinMo due to the fact that if an App freezes I can use a hardware button to get back to the homescreen and majority of the time an app freeze won't stop me from using the phone feature. (don't get app freeze confused with an OS freeze, even I can't make a call when that happens). I like the Microsoft/Adobe/Apple pricing scheme that seems to completely ignore the fact that we have an exchange rate, I was wondering when someone else would find another way for us to roll over and get royally screwed up the proverbial (why are we such saps in the country!). Half of me hopes it successful just due to the innovation it should promote in phones and the other half hopes it fails just to spite Jobs, he just another Branson in my book (which translates into uncaring ar****le). -------------------- Interesting Times
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Jun 15 2007, 22:13
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,012 Joined: 10th July 2006 From: US, Washington, Everett Member No.: 197,656 Device(s): AT&T Tilt (Kaiser)!!! |
i think its funny no one understands the iphones price. i guess no one is used to the price of a smartphone/pocket pc (but i would never call the iphone one). everyone is so used to normal phones...
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Jun 26 2007, 21:27
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 220 Joined: 3rd January 2005 From: Cambridge, UK Member No.: 104,315 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
QUOTE(mikeeey @ Jun 15 2007, 23:13) i think its funny no one understands the iphones price. i guess no one is used to the price of a smartphone/pocket pc (but i would never call the iphone one). everyone is so used to normal phones... No I'm used to prices of smartphones/PPC's, it's just apparently the 8GB version of the iPhone is $599 on a two-year contact with Cingular. We don't really have a strong idea of what it's going to be like in the UK. |
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Jun 26 2007, 23:02
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 38 Joined: 26th March 2006 Member No.: 179,428 Device(s): SPV C600 |
QUOTE(Rob.P @ Jun 15 2007, 13:59) I think Apple had great intentions but have screwed up a lot of things and set their expectations too high, the phone market is nasty and can destroy a company even before they have released a product/service. I can't see how Jobs is going to hit his market expectations, granted a large chunk of sales are guarnteed to Apple sheeple consumers but after you have saturated that market you can't survive on that income alone. If every iPod owner would buy an iPhone .... But it's obvious that that's not gonna happen, no matter the hype (get ready for some crazy news flooding on all the tech blogs in the next days - even crazier than it was by now <_< ). Even if the 5% hardcore apple fans are going to camp the stores like it's PS3 all over again, I can't see the masses putting down 600$ (+80$/month/2y contract!). Here in Switzerland, most expensive phones have a realy hard time - or in other words, a realy long time on the shelves. The masses just don't seem willing to pay more than 100$ for a phone - and that's mostly the fashion crowd. In fact, the only well selling phones seem to be the close-to-free ones. WinMo devices come considerably cheaper than the iPhone ever will (even if you add memory cards till you reach those 8GB). Currently most newer ones (i600, Q9, Vox, Herald, Treo750) sell around 400$ (with a 20-30$/month/2y contract) and yet they don't seem to sell well except among the business crowd. Also the expensive Nokia's (wtf are they thinking with their prices btw.) seem to have a hard time, with many models regularly laying around till they get thrown out in sales like 6 to 12 months later. I hardly ever notice anyone using a new Nokia device. The only overpriced devices that sold well were the cheaper SE Walkman phones. And at 100-200$ they were considerably cheaper than that sour Apple. As for the iPhone pushing development, I aint so sure if that's something to be happy about. After all, the biggest impact it seems to have so far is that every producer comes up with some sort of touch screen. Hell, do we realy want a touchscreen on every frikkin gadget? I certainly don't. And other than that half-new feature (multi-touch instead of touch), I don't see how or where the iPhone brought something new (oh yeah, maybe if the battery run time is true, but those hours they stated seem fairly fantastic imo). |
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Jun 28 2007, 16:37
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,012 Joined: 10th July 2006 From: US, Washington, Everett Member No.: 197,656 Device(s): AT&T Tilt (Kaiser)!!! |
QUOTE(Pop2k @ Jun 26 2007, 15:02) If every iPod owner would buy an iPhone .... But it's obvious that that's not gonna happen, no matter the hype (get ready for some crazy news flooding on all the tech blogs in the next days - even crazier than it was by now <_< ). Even if the 5% hardcore apple fans are going to camp the stores like it's PS3 all over again, I can't see the masses putting down 600$ (+80$/month/2y contract!). Here in Switzerland, most expensive phones have a realy hard time - or in other words, a realy long time on the shelves. The masses just don't seem willing to pay more than 100$ for a phone - and that's mostly the fashion crowd. In fact, the only well selling phones seem to be the close-to-free ones. WinMo devices come considerably cheaper than the iPhone ever will (even if you add memory cards till you reach those 8GB). Currently most newer ones (i600, Q9, Vox, Herald, Treo750) sell around 400$ (with a 20-30$/month/2y contract) and yet they don't seem to sell well except among the business crowd. Also the expensive Nokia's (wtf are they thinking with their prices btw.) seem to have a hard time, with many models regularly laying around till they get thrown out in sales like 6 to 12 months later. I hardly ever notice anyone using a new Nokia device. The only overpriced devices that sold well were the cheaper SE Walkman phones. And at 100-200$ they were considerably cheaper than that sour Apple. As for the iPhone pushing development, I aint so sure if that's something to be happy about. After all, the biggest impact it seems to have so far is that every producer comes up with some sort of touch screen. Hell, do we realy want a touchscreen on every frikkin gadget? I certainly don't. And other than that half-new feature (multi-touch instead of touch), I don't see how or where the iPhone brought something new (oh yeah, maybe if the battery run time is true, but those hours they stated seem fairly fantastic imo). what a deal! over all this phone casts ONLY $2,520.00! its all worth it though. it will make you the cool kid lol what exactly is the $80.00 paying for? is it jus the phone itself? or is it the internet services and stuff. what worries me is, do u think AT&T will do the same when the kaiser comes out? whne they find out it has gps and they can charge you off of that? This post has been edited by mikeeey: Jun 28 2007, 16:40 |
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Jul 5 2007, 09:57
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 Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 229 Joined: 22nd April 2005 From: UK Member No.: 125,267 Device(s): Vario III |
The BBC is reporting that O2 has won the iPhone contract in the UK
Remember, phones are subsidised more by the networks over here than they are in the States, so I'd guess no more than £300 on a £30 a month contract, and possibly less. Still waiting to see if the Kaiser will come to O2... The Register says that the iPhone will still only be 2.5G not 3G, so that's a turn off from the beginning... -------------------- Novus Ordo Mundi
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Jul 23 2007, 14:40
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 38 Joined: 26th March 2006 Member No.: 179,428 Device(s): SPV C600 |
Q: How risky and how difficult is swapping the wallpaper on the iPhone?
If you ever wondered about how much of a dumbphone this thing realy is... http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/07/23/c...nes-background/ (Hint: 15 steps required to do it and your risking bricking your iTrashofaphone.) |
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Aug 2 2008, 09:49
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 Peanut Brain Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 6,501 Joined: 10th September 2004 From: Surrey, England Member No.: 56,072 Device(s): iPhone 8Gb - YellowSn0wed |
Well, they seem to have sold a few of them.
And now with 3G and (albeit limited) GPS it is quite a tempting device. 2Mb camera? Pics are very good on my computer screen (much better than WM devices) I'm actually rather tempted..... -------------------- He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
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Oct 6 2008, 07:04
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Peanut Brain Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 6,501 Joined: 10th September 2004 From: Surrey, England Member No.: 56,072 Device(s): iPhone 8Gb - YellowSn0wed |
So tempted, in fact, that I've just bought one off eBay....
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